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Logan
#1

Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:19 pm

Logan
Olimar
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First, OOT 3D:



And now, The 3DS VC release, Link's Awakening DX (Port):


Another reason to get a 3DS: It's Virtual Console has GB and GBC games. Hopefully it will also have other handhelds such as the Neo Geo Pocket, Game Gear, Wonderswan, Game and Watch, and more.

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roshipower
#2

Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:39 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
im kida disapointed with the graphics on it

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Logan
#3

Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:42 pm

Logan
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roshipower wrote:im kida disapointed with the graphics on it
Which one, OOT, or LA? With LA, it's not a remake, but a port since it's a VC game, and OOT, the graphics are good but perhaps could be better.

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roshipower
#4

Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:43 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
^yah,imo,ds graphics are the worst 3d graphics for its time,but the 2d graphicss on ds are beautiful

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zmanrwks
#5

Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:56 am

zmanrwks
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roshipower wrote:im kida disapointed with the graphics on it
3 things:
1)Graphics don't matter.
2)This game is a remake, so the graphics would be similar to N64.
3)This is just one game. There will be like 30 more between launch date and June.

Skochko
#6

Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:52 am

Skochko
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zmanrwks wrote:
roshipower wrote:im kida disapointed with the graphics on it
3 things:
1)Graphics don't matter.
2)This game is a remake, so the graphics would be similar to N64.
3)This is just one game. There will be like 30 more between launch date and June.
1. Graphics DO matter now, Nintendo won't get any further with lame graphics.
2. Remakes usually don't have the same graphics as the original games. Remember Super Mario 64 DS? It is an old game too...
3. True, but this is Zelda, one of Nintendo's strongest franchises.

Kaz
#7

Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:50 pm

Kaz
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So roshi, u think the 3DS graphics are lame as DS ones?

roshipower
#8

Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:48 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
well kinda,actually nintendo are really disapointing me that they can't seem to spend time on graphical enhancements in the age of HD tvs are stuff like that,this is why wii and ds are considered inferior to ps3/xbox and the psp(for ds),because harware wise,nintendo are pathetic now,back in the n64 days they werent,now they are,software on the other hand is pretty good

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Kaz
#9

Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:18 pm

Kaz
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And you feel that the 3DS is....

roshipower
#10

Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:53 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
graphics on oot dont impress much,considering this remake is being made 13 years after the original was made

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zmanrwks
#11

Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:43 am

zmanrwks
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Skochko wrote:
zmanrwks wrote:
roshipower wrote:im kida disapointed with the graphics on it
3 things:
1)Graphics don't matter.
2)This game is a remake, so the graphics would be similar to N64.
3)This is just one game. There will be like 30 more between launch date and June.
1. Graphics DO matter now, Nintendo won't get any further with lame graphics.
2. Remakes usually don't have the same graphics as the original games. Remember Super Mario 64 DS? It is an old game too...
3. True, but this is Zelda, one of Nintendo's strongest franchises.

1) Gameplay > Graphics
2) Super Mario 64 had blocky graphics, so it was much different in SM64DS. However, OoT wasn't as blocky as SM64, so there isn't much to improve on.
3) A game is a game. In like a year or two, the graphics will be improved.

roshipower wrote:well kinda,actually nintendo are really disapointing me that they can't seem to spend time on graphical enhancements in the age of HD tvs are stuff like that,this is why wii and ds are considered inferior to ps3/xbox and the psp(for ds),because harware wise,nintendo are pathetic now,back in the n64 days they werent,now they are,software on the other hand is pretty good
PS3 and Xbox 360 spoil you. Yes, they are good, but with all the stuff they offer, something simpler by any amount is bad to you. They are all good IMO (PS3 and Wii more then 360), but because some system has one thing more then the other, doesn't mean it is inferior.

roshipower
#12

Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:06 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
still,nintendo could try to make a better system graphically

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zmanrwks
#13

Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:21 pm

zmanrwks
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roshipower wrote:still,nintendo could try to make a better system graphically
Handhelds aren't as easy to make graphically amazing like a console. Although, if you were to look at it, 3DS graphics are equal to/greater then the PSP. With 3D on, it will look even better.

Kaz
#14

Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:58 pm

Kaz
Administrator
Administrator
True, i have shown some comparison of PSP, Iphone, Ds, and 3Ds, the 3dS are better than the previous

Skochko
#15

Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:28 am

Skochko
Administrator
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Yes they are pretty good, but all of you have adjusted yourselves to low standards graphic-quality-wise, so any improvement for you is big...

Nintendo needs more HD, in my opinion...

zmanrwks
#16

Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:41 am

zmanrwks
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Skochko wrote:Yes they are pretty good, but all of you have adjusted yourselves to low standards graphic-quality-wise, so any improvement for you is big...
Untrue. I'm use to seeing HD Graphics on PS3 and 360 (I've seen them alot), so no, it isn't big with just "any improvement".

Skochko
#17

Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:47 am

Skochko
Administrator
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OKAY ZMAN, whatever. You seriously want bad graphics or what? I am saying that Nintendo will always perfect the gameplay over graphics, but they should invest much more in graphics in the upcoming consoles, than they used to. They could dominate the market with HD graphics.

zmanrwks
#18

Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:55 am

zmanrwks
Moderator
Moderator
Skochko wrote:OKAY ZMAN, whatever. You seriously want bad graphics or what? I am saying that Nintendo will always perfect the gameplay over graphics, but they should invest much more in graphics in the upcoming consoles, than they used to. They could dominate the market with HD graphics.
I know what you are saying, I guess. I can see my past comments made me seem like some fanboy or whatever, though I was not trying to. I was angry how some people would say something has "bad graphics" despite it is a handheld (which have lower graphics). Sorry for my stupidity.

Skochko
#19

Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:00 am

Skochko
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Well, no matter how difficult it is to produce good graphics on handheld systems, it is not really impossible. But yea, 3DS is another innovative system that will lack some features of a HD handheld system, so probably the next one will be perfect.

Some 3DS games have very good graphics though. I just think Nintendo needs to try harder, like certain third party developers.

roshipower
#20

Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:10 am

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
what im saying is that nintendo do aim for gameplay>graphics which i agree,but its not like 360 and ps3 lack gameplay,they have both gameplay and graphics,nintendo lasks graphics,if they do,they might be able to make a comeback seeing as many people look at the wii as a joke

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Skochko
#21

Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:56 am

Skochko
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roshipower wrote:what im saying is that nintendo do aim for gameplay>graphics which i agree,but its not like 360 and ps3 lack gameplay,they have both gameplay and graphics,nintendo lasks graphics,if they do,they might be able to make a comeback seeing as many people look at the wii as a joke
LOL. Wii is the top console of the three. People who think that Wii is a joke are PS3/Xbox360 fanboys. Wii is unique. By gameplay, we mean the control system. The other two consoles are basically gamepad-only. Move and Kinect are not nearly as developed as Wii Motion controls.

Nintendo has the upper hand in the console market. If they design a HD console with Wii-style of gameplay, it will be a huge hit. If they don't, they might fail, because Sony and Microsoft might do the same.

Microsoft and Sony just entered the motion-control world, so they are pretty nooby.

Here are some statistics for you:
- Wii holds more than 45% of the total systems sold in the generation 7, a little less over PS3 and Xbox 360 combined.
- In the list of the top 20 best selling console games (non bundled) of all times, Nintendo systems cover 18 places, with the 12th place being held by GTA San Andreas (PS2) and 16th by Gran Turismo 3 (PS2).
- In the same list, Wii games take 6 spots, including the top spot (Wii Play), while Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 hold none.
- Wii has 13 games that have sold more than 5 million copies worldwide, while PS3 has 2 and Xbox 360 has 3.

- Total Wii games sold as of September 30, 2010: 610.04 million.
- Total Xbox 360 games sold as of December 2009: 353.8 million.
- Total PlayStation 3 games sold as of June 30, 2010: 315.3 million.


Is that saying something? Of course Wii is not PS2, but hey, it is dominant enough.

roshipower
#22

Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:32 pm

roshipower
Zekrom & Reshiram
Zekrom & Reshiram
yes but im saying that most people who arent 6 year olds seem to find wii a joke likely cuz of graphics and crappy online

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Kaz
#23

Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:49 pm

Kaz
Administrator
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Well the online is getting better, and if nintendo would make a HQ system, they will take the spot, for having both gameplay and graphics.

zmanrwks
#24

Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:21 pm

zmanrwks
Moderator
Moderator
Nintendo takes things slower, but usually have more to offer in terms of gameplay and how you play (motion, 3D, etc.)

PS3 and 360 are basically the same but better online, memory, and graphics. However, the systems are basically the same as their predecessors. They aren't bad, but I'm just saying.

Skochko
#25

Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:25 pm

Skochko
Administrator
Administrator
zmanrwks wrote:Nintendo takes things slower, but usually have more to offer in terms of gameplay and how you play (motion, 3D, etc.)

PS3 and 360 are basically the same but better online, memory, and graphics. However, the systems are basically the same as their predecessors. They aren't bad, but I'm just saying.
They are nothing like their predecessors lol. They are major improvements... The thing is, they didn't have to change much. Nintendo had to change a lot, since it was losing the battle.

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